Episode 361 - A MATTER OF CIRCUMSTANCE

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Re: Episode 361 - A MATTER OF CIRCUMSTANCE

Post by daisy60 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:21 pm

YouTube [ where I watch later episodes] doesn't show anything extra and it's been years since the original was on TV. I guess we'll have to wait for Seasons 11-14 to be released. Since Season 10 was just released it may be a while. One episode I remember a scene being removed is from Forever. After the fire when Alice died, the Dr. walks down the stairs with Ben and hands him a bottle of Laudanum and tells him to give some to Joe every 4-6 hours for pain but not to leave it in his room in his state of mind. Sometimes entire episodes were removed and not shown for years-the Lost Episodes. :shrug

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Post by Oxgirl » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:05 pm

Hi daisy60, thanks for the response and for the info re. Forever, would have liked to see that also. I wonder why they decide to cut certain bits, how annoying. :sad I'm in the UK so have to rely on the German DVDs, as can't watch the US ones over here. Grrrrrr.

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Post by Oxgirl » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:07 pm

They've been showing some of the 'lost' eps on CBS over here recently, which is good.

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Post by daisy60 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:38 pm

I think many years ago Pat Robinson took control over some networks and took out some episodes that he thought were not for 'family', usually too violent. They were later discovered again and called 'lost episodes'. Considering what is shown on TV today these were very mild. :wink
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Post by ellen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:52 pm

The "lost" episodes weren't really lost. Bonanza was released for syndication in 2 packages. The first package, which contained all the season 1-6 episodes (except "Lothario Larkin" for some reason) was much more popular, so people started referring to the 2nd package as "lost".

The "lost episode" package consists of episodes from these seasons:
Season 6: 1 (Lothario Larkin)
Season 7: 33 (all of them)
Season 8: 19 out of 34
Season 9: 14 out of 34
Season 10: 16 out of 30
Season 11: 18 out of 28
Season 12: 28 (all of them)
Season 13: 26 (all of them)
Season 14: 15 (all of them)

Of the first package, the only episode I can think of that was not shown on some stations was Season 6's "The Saga Of Squaw Charlie". Maybe because of the implication that Squaw Charlie had molested and killed a young girl. MeTV shows it but I don't think TVLand does.

Of the 2nd package, I've heard that the "Family Channel" would not show some because of their "non-Christian" content:
The Strange One (ESP)
The Pursued (2-part episode; polygamy)
Second Sight (ESP)
A Visit To Upright (?? maybe because of the painting of the nude woman?)
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Post by ellen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:58 pm

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Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:24 am
Hi all, am very late to this party, but I'd heard there was a missing scene in AMOC; after Ben finds Joe on the kitchen floor and before we see the doc standing by the bed talking about the accuracy of the book. Anyone seen it the missing scene?
The gap between when Ben finds Joe and the scene with the doctor does seem odd, but I have never heard that an scene that was originally broadcast was removed. It does seem that we missed out on some real Joe/Pa moments!

I have heard that near the beginning, when Joe is hurt he screams and the scream was removed after the original broadcast.
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Post by ansinico » Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:15 pm

The scene I couldn't get my head around is the critically injured Joe deciding to fry a steak! :shrug I can understand it brought into play the cleaver also the fire reflected in Joe's fevered gaze. (Great direction and photography) He had to light the stove to warm the water for the poultice anyway and the camera on a scan of the kitchen could've dwelt on the meat cleaver hanging a hook. I cannot believe Hop Sing would've left uncooked food on his worktop let alone a big lump of raw beef. And would the fevered Joe be that hungry he would want to cook anything?
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ansinico wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:15 pm
The scene I couldn't get my head around is the critically injured Joe deciding to fry a steak! :shrug I can understand it brought into play the cleaver also the fire reflected in Joe's fevered gaze. (Great direction and photography) He had to light the stove to warm the water for the poultice anyway and the camera on a scan of the kitchen could've dwelt on the meat cleaver hanging a hook. I cannot believe Hop Sing would've left uncooked food on his worktop let alone a big lump of raw beef. And would the fevered Joe be that hungry he would want to cook anything?



Yes, that scene is a bit strange. Usually when you don't feel well food is the last thing you'd want. I also couldn't believe the raw meat sitting out in the kitchen! Shame on whosever idea that was! :shrug

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Post by Oxgirl » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:46 am

I have heard that near the beginning, when Joe is hurt he screams and the scream was removed after the original broadcast.

Yep, I've heard that about the scream as well, although he did do a whopper of a scream in Bushwhacked and they didn't cut that one!

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Post by Oxgirl » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:49 am

ansinico wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:15 pm
The scene I couldn't get my head around is the critically injured Joe deciding to fry a steak! :shrug I can understand it brought into play the cleaver also the fire reflected in Joe's fevered gaze. (Great direction and photography) He had to light the stove to warm the water for the poultice anyway and the camera on a scan of the kitchen could've dwelt on the meat cleaver hanging a hook. I cannot believe Hop Sing would've left uncooked food on his worktop let alone a big lump of raw beef. And would the fevered Joe be that hungry he would want to cook anything?
Yep, I agree, he didn't look like he was in a fit state to sit down and chow down on a big hunk of steak! :laughing
Also, I never could understand how the kid never saw him, as he went in the barn and looked left and right.

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