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Re: Episode 233 - HOME FROM THE SEA

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:48 pm
by debpet2
This is the one episode I've actually avoided watching, specifically because I didn't like the basic premise as I had seen it described in TV Guide etc. The idea of someone invoking Adam's name to insinuate himself with the family just goes against me. The whole issue of Adam's absence was never dealt with in a satisfactory way in the series and the impression I got was that this episode would be a step in the wrong direction.

debpet2 :adam

P.S. I could go for the idea of passing this off as just a bad dream of Ben's.

Re: Episode 233 - HOME FROM THE SEA

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:51 pm
by daisy60
I'm not too fond of this episode, starting at the beginning when Ben thinks the man is Adam from the back! He looked nothing like Adam, except he started wearing his clothes. The clothes don't make him Adam.

Re: Episode 233 - HOME FROM THE SEA

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:14 pm
by PlatoofthePonderosa
:rotfl I love the idea that it's all Ben having a nightmare. That'll be my new headcanon. Especially because of that bit where Gillie is describing an innovation of Adam's that ends up an unqualified disaster and becomes a joke to his fellow sailors! Since when has our brainy cowboy invented ANYTHING that didn't work perfectly? :shrug :laughing

The only moment in this episode I remember liking is Hoss's observation after Ben talks about how much Gillie reminds him of Adam (what was Ben thinking? I mean really!): "They got one thing in common...he takes off by himself every time he's got a thought or a notion he can't shake loose from."

I think that's an insightful remark, and it shows how well Hoss knows his older brother.

Re: Episode 233 - HOME FROM THE SEA

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:57 pm
by Julianna
Ahh, I saw this episode ONE time. I never put it on again. Even when it was on many years later. I remember the promotion ads that made you think it was Adam. They never showed the face of the actor in the promos. When I saw the episode it was such a disappointment and the feeling of being tricked. From these photos on here the actor who plays Gilly looks like he could be related to Danny Kaye. No not lookalike but just related, maybe the mouth and nose area? No way does this man look like PR, no not even close. Strange that Ben would mistake him for Adam only several feet away when in The Crucible he recognized Adam many yards away, like 100's. He must have been looking with his heart.

Re: Episode 233 - HOME FROM THE SEA

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:59 pm
by PlatoofthePonderosa
I've thought that he looks like Danny Kaye, too.
Julianna wrote:Strange that Ben would mistake him for Adam only several feet away when in The Crucible he recognized Adam many yards away, like 100's. He must have been looking with his heart.
Well, I can't fault him for that. :no :adam :hearts

Re: Episode 233 - HOME FROM THE SEA

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:28 pm
by dreamie
I totally get that folks would be turned off for this eppy. I really like this one though because it helps with continuity and I really appreciate when the writers took care for that. I would have liked it more if it were in a little later season. Also I usually don't like the morality tale portions of the shows, but I like them in this one because it allows as a viewer to recognize the genuine nature of the Cartwright family. It doesn't totally redeem the conman but it shows him as a complex personality.

(The idea of Ben having a nightmare is really, really funny though. I like to come up with little scenarios to explain plot lapses in my head too!)